I was filled with horror

"Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available" (whoistheleader2) 12/28/2019 at 10:16 • Filed to: Blip, handling, Miata, F-150, escalade, Quotes

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I was recently reminded of something a friend of mine said that both shocked and horrified me.

Here is his truck. Can you guess?

The truck in question. Not known for its agility

Well, here it is.

“My mom’s Escalade turns so fast it scares me”

He has only driven this old F150, and was frightened by the nimble handling of a second gen Escalade. Like this:

The Cadillac in question. Not known for its agility either. Image: Google

He has not seen the light. Someone get him a Miata, quick, before it’s too late!

If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent > Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available 12/28/2019 at 10:29

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And h e probably just means the power steering has a lot of boost.

Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap > Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available 12/28/2019 at 10:30

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You're trying to tell me this isn't nimble?

atfsgeoff > Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available 12/28/2019 at 10:35

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Probably has to do with being used to a long wheelbase and high ratio steering. Just about any short wheelbase car will scare the hell out of him.

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available 12/28/2019 at 10:43

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That gen of F-150 is still from the era where trucks drove more like tractors than cars.

But could that glorified Tahoe really be better? 

Urambo Tauro > Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available 12/28/2019 at 10:44

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A t least he’ s paying attention to how the vehicle behaves. Wish I could say the same for most of th e population out there ...

OPPOsaurus WRX > Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available 12/28/2019 at 10:57

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Go ing from an Explorer to a WRX was mind blowing

Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > atfsgeoff 12/28/2019 at 11:09

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That’s why I want to get him in my Cruze and watch his face.

For Sweden > Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available 12/28/2019 at 11:11

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It's the Cadillac that zigs

Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap 12/28/2019 at 11:11

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Yes.

Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > OPPOsaurus WRX 12/28/2019 at 11:14

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Ha, I bet. I used to drive my mom’s 40 00 lb fwd behemoth of a Volvo XC90 and then I got my Cruze. Night and day difference.

Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 12/28/2019 at 11:16

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I observed him doing considerable steering to keep the F150 in a straight line. Maybe the Cadillac just steers as well as it left the factory and the truck doesn’t.

Chariotoflove > For Sweden 12/28/2019 at 12:21

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Zigging is never the problem. It’s the zagging that puts  you into a tree.

shop-teacher > Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available 12/28/2019 at 12:27

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That is actually a second Gen Escalade. Cadillac rushed a GMT-400 version into production to stave off the assault posed by the Lincoln Navigator.

And yes, it is a Yukon Denali with a Cadillac crest glued in place of the GMC badge. 

Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > shop-teacher 12/28/2019 at 12:35

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Ah, I remember that now. It is fixed.

BrianGriffin thinks “reliable” is just a state of mind > Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available 12/28/2019 at 12:35

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Ball joints on that era F150 need to be replaced basically every other oil change. 

Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > BrianGriffin thinks “reliable” is just a state of mind 12/28/2019 at 12:40

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I'm pretty sure the entire suspension is shot

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available 12/28/2019 at 12:50

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That is a very likely situation. My father in law’s old ford truck has what I like to call “sailboat” steering. Because there’s a bout 1/4 turn of slop in the steering before anything actually happens. Which also means you have to kind of bounce it back and forth to stay straight 

ITA97, now with more Jag @ opposite-lock.com > Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available 12/28/2019 at 15:53

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As the owner of one for nearly a decade, I would be remiss to not gently point out the first generation Escalade was actually a GMT400 based truck sold in 1999-2000. The second generation Escalade went to the GMT800 chassis in 2002.

shop-teacher > Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available 12/28/2019 at 15:54

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No worries. Your point still stands :)

SmugAardvark > Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available 12/28/2019 at 18:49

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The Cadillac Escalade: It turns on a dime* ·

*As long as that dime is at least 75 yards across.

Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > ITA97, now with more Jag @ opposite-lock.com 12/28/2019 at 19:29

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I fixed it. Thank you.

That Bastard Kurtis - An Attempt to Standardize My Username Across Platforms > Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available 12/28/2019 at 21:01

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I owned an F150 of that vintage for a while and have a  GMT800 Escalade and Tahoe...in comparison to literally nothing but that F150 your friend is not wrong. 

That Bastard Kurtis - An Attempt to Standardize My Username Across Platforms > ITA97, now with more Jag @ opposite-lock.com 12/28/2019 at 21:02

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Is that your first gen Escalade? That’s a crazy clean one, they’re all garbage where I live. 

That Bastard Kurtis - An Attempt to Standardize My Username Across Platforms > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 12/28/2019 at 21:05

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WORLDS better. That generation of F150 was the last, to me, really truck feeling F150s. The GMT800 trucks and SUVs are more car like, my wife has an Escalade and I’ve got a Tahoe...they feel way newer than a  10t h gen F150.

ITA97, now with more Jag @ opposite-lock.com > That Bastard Kurtis - An Attempt to Standardize My Username Across Platforms 12/28/2019 at 21:37

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That is. That picture was taken in 2017 when I bought the F-150 that replaced it . It is still in the family  as my parents occasional moving large objects vehicle. I bought it cheap from a shady used car lot in 2009 with some minor issues and filthy inside and out with 110k on it . Some repairs and two days of cleaning, shampooing, conditioning, and compounding later, if cleaned up well. It’s got around 160k on it now.

That Bastard Kurtis - An Attempt to Standardize My Username Across Platforms > ITA97, now with more Jag @ opposite-lock.com 12/29/2019 at 07:16

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I very briefly, for about two months, had the worlds shittiest 1g Yukon Denali. Man was that truck junk. But it had barn doors  so I wish I had it back.

ITA97, now with more Jag @ opposite-lock.com > That Bastard Kurtis - An Attempt to Standardize My Username Across Platforms 12/29/2019 at 08:56

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Mine has the split tailgate setup, which I prefer. Before it I had a 96 suburban with the barn doors. I found them less preferable to a tailgate.

gmporschenut also a fan of hondas > Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available 12/29/2019 at 10:14

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$20 says the shocks, bushings, Springs, ball joints would show up on justrolledintotheshop. Probably like my friend saying the 2012 eclipse was the best handling car he ever drove coming from a 2003 Passat, that hadn’t seen work since it left the factory

That Bastard Kurtis - An Attempt to Standardize My Username Across Platforms > ITA97, now with more Jag @ opposite-lock.com 12/29/2019 at 11:24

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Split tailgate is the best way. I’d put barn doors second, then conventional tailgate, then getting hit by a bus, then a side opening tailgate.